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Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2022

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Should we change this short description to "Italian painter and architect (1483–1520)" based on Wikidata, by inclusion of dates if needed. 112.204.220.67 (talk) 04:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've no problem with that, although short descriptions don't usually include dates in my experience. Johnbod (talk) 13:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: It's more better with dates if lifetime is most important, not just a weird century construction. 112.204.220.67 (talk) 00:41, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done, per WP:SDDATES. Ham II (talk) 17:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My defence of Representations in the Arts and Literature

I cannot see you have any argument to say my edit is WP:UNDUE. Mentions in art and literature are a normal addition to information on any subject and the a section to include them is hardly unusual. The entries I included are from the most widely read poet of her day and they are in what were then popular publications that are easily accessible on the internet today. She was an innovator, who wrote original poetry in her own unique style, all attributes that are highly valued in today's world. In spite of almost two centuries of misogyny (as is common with female authors) and, until recently, a complete lack of scholarship (other than Sarah Sheppard, 1841) she is today quite popular on poetry websites and is at least in the top 200 poets. Ignorance is not a reason for quoting UNDUE and surely it is not the aim of wikipedia, any more than misogyny. Esme Shepherd (talk) 11:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Change decor to décor several times. SelahR (talk) 18:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This is unnecessary, as "decor" without the diacritic is now a common English spelling. See WP:DGUIDE. PianoDan (talk) 22:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Missing for Quotation?

The page quotes Michelangelo as saying "everything he knew about art he got from me." Then the page goes on to say "although other quotations show more generous reactions." The citation given is Blunt, Anthony, Artistic Theory in Italy, 1450–1660 (p. 76), specifically a 1985 edition (read: the eighth impression). This book has been printed by Oxford University Press since 1962, based on the Claredon Press's 1940 edition, from which it was first published. I have checked several editions (all of which seem to correspond exactly to the original 1940 edition) and cannot find this quotation in any them. Blunt only quotes Michelangelo as saying, per Condivi, that "Raphael had not his art by nature but acquired it by long study."

For refewrence, on the Italian page, the quotation is given as «Tutte le discordie che nacquono tra papa Julio e me, fu l'invidia di Bramante et di Raffaello da Urbino […] et avevane bene cagione Raffaello, che ciò che aveva dell'arte, l'aveva da me», and the citation given is Paolo Franzese, Raffaello, Milano, Mondadori Arte, 2008, ISBN 978-88-370-6437-2. (p.142) I don't have access to this book so I can't verify that.

Either way, am I getting something wrong here? It seems to me that the citation on the English page does not attest to the given quote. I don't have any experience editing Wikipedia, I just noticed this when I was conducting some research. Maybe someone can shed some light on this. 173.255.109.62 (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]